Friday, June 27, 2008

Apple Cider Vinegar

I keep hearing about the benefits of Apple Cider Vinegar and I keep hearing what sound to me like pseudo-scientific explanations of why it's supposed to be beneficial for the animals. I don't doubt that it's beneficial; I doubt the explanation that's been offered for why it's beneficial. And having something beneficial without knowing why it's beneficial could lead to misuse. So I decided to see if I could find any mention of ACV from someone that I would consider a more expert source than some of those I'd previously seen. That lead me to this page: Solutions Used With Poultry and this particular passage:

ASTRINGENT SOLUTION

This solution can be used to treat young birds that show non-typical disease symptoms of poor growth. The solution can also be given to birds suffering from respiratory diseases that produce a large amount of mucus exudate. This solution will help "cut through" the mucus and allow it to be expelled easier.

Two quarts of apple cider vinegar diluted into 100 gallons of water
(4 teaspoons/gallon)

The tannin in the apple cider vinegar aide in removing any mucus or coating from the mouth, throat, or intestinal tract. Nutrients and drugs are more readily absorbed. Offer this solution as the only drinking water source for two to three day intervals.

Now he only mentions poultry--not pigeons--so I'm not sure that this would necessarily be effective for pigeons. But given the context I would think that probably it would work for pigeons too.

What I find most interesting is that most of the pigeon people who've commented on ACV focus on the acidic nature of vinegar. That seems to be the wrong explanation of the benefits of using ACV if you use it at all. Since a certain amount of mucus is normal and healthy in the mouth, throat and intestinal tract, I would say that it would seem wise to only use ACV if you suspect the animal is having some sort of respiratory problem lest you accidentally reduce the healthy, normal level of mucus present in those areas.

It would also seem wise to use if the animal seems to be malnourished. I suspect some people will read that sentence "Nutrients and drugs are more readily absorbed." and say to themselves--"Better absorption of nutrients? Wow, I'll give it to my birds every day because then they'll all get a lot more nutrition from their food!" To those people I would suggest that they would be wise to consider that an otherwise healthy pigeon should be able to absorb the proper nutrients from their food without needing the aid of ACV (or any other substance foreign to their digestive system for that matter).

Anyway, I thought others might be interested in seeing this too. As with any advice of this sort, I would say the wise fancier follows any of this advice with care; individual circumstances are variable and the wise fancier should take that variance into account before blindly following generic veterinary advice.

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Tuesday, June 10, 2008

Pigeon bite? kills man

I find this news item from India incredible on two counts:

  1. I've never seen a pigeon "bite" anyone. They don't have teeth. Perhaps they meant to indicate that the pigeon pecked the man? I don't think I've ever even had a pigeon pinch my skin between their beaks; I have had hookbills pinch my skin that way.
  2. There is some sort of implication of the pigeon "bite" killing this person. Again, I find this extremely difficult to believe. Even if a pigeon were to peck as hard as it could, unless it pecked you directly in your eye it wouldn't hurt you.
I wonder if somehow this story got translated incorrectly or if the story was written by someone with a not-so-great command of English.

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Sunday, June 08, 2008

Champion Pigeon Racer Quits Over Cheating and Spying

I don't know which aspect of this story strikes me as being saddest.

  1. The fact that people figured that a championship racer could only win consistently by cheating.
  2. The fact that people have taken something that should be an enjoyable hobby and raised it to the level of importance to either possibly cheat in order to win or to justify to themselves that invading someone's privacy is ok because if they're cheating they need to be caught and thrown out of the hobby.

I know that in any hobby there are people who are so compelled to win that they have no compunction about resorting to cheating. And I also know there are people who are so galled by cheating that they feel completely justified in pursuing any measure they need to pursue in order to prove cheating and get the guilty party punished. But at the end of the day, it's just a hobby--supposedly an enjoyable way to spend time with birds.

It seems that either Mr. Gibson was not cheating or there was no conclusive proof of him doing so because the governing body decided not to take any action. But maybe the police will want to take some action because this surely sounds like an invasion of a person's privacy no matter what motivated it.

If anyone from Scotland knows more details about this story and reads this post, please share them with me. I get the feeling there's more to this than the news article would indicate.

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Wednesday, June 04, 2008

405 Breeds

A fellow fancier from Europe was kind enough to point me to a document for the EE which lists their accepted standards. As best I can count they list 405 breeds of domesticated pigeons. And this was in 2003 and there were more breeds that are being developed that had not yet been accepted for the official list. Amazing.

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Friday, May 30, 2008

Determing The Gender of Pigeons

Recently I had a fancier who is relatively new to pigeons ask me about sexing birds. I have a few thoughts on this--don't I always? :-) --and I would be curious to hear what others have to say about this.

Immature Pigeons Attempting to sex immature pigeons is usually a waste of time. Unless you have specific genetics involved (see below) as far as I know it's practically impossible to sex pigeons before they reach sexual maturity.

Slower Maturing Breeds Some breeds of pigeons mature more slowly than others. I saw Dr. James Gratz's article in a recent issue of Purebred Pigeon magazine about sexing frillbacks and he mentioned that they can be slow to mature. I have Old Dutch Capuchines and they seem to be a little slow to mature too.

Checking the Width of the Pubic Bones You can feel the pubic bones on the bird <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_skeleton#Skeletal_system>. The gap between the pubic bones should be wider on a hen (to let the egg pass out). However, the gap on a male runt will be far wider than the gap on a fantail hen so you need to have a known female or male of the
breed you're checking to get an idea of approximately how wide the pubic bones should be. And the wise fancier remembers that there is almost always some variation in nature.

In relation to this a very knowledgeable fancier of my acquaintance had this to say about this technique:

I've asked a lot of learned people and experienced fanciers about this vent stuff and there doesn't seem to be any sexually dymorphic constant in vent bone width. I haven't found any information based on statistical analysis to prove this apparent "wags tail" as any more reliable then a washer and a string. In Willard Hollanders' Origins and Excursions in Pigeon Genetics he states that beak length in wild pigeons can be sexually dymorphic but this relationship does not hold up in domestic fancy breeds.

The "washer and string" he's referring to is documented below.

Genetics to Help with Gender Determination Certain matings will result in certain colorations in the offspring. Rather than risk increasing the sum total of incorrect information floating around the internet, I'll refer those interested in learning more about these
matings to this page: <http://www.angelfire.com/ga3/pigeongenetics/SEX-LINKAGE.html> by
Frank Mosca that gives an excellent explanation of how sex-linkage in genetics can help a fancier to determine the gender of the result of certain matings. Texan Autosexing Pioneers were developed to allow commercial squab houses to easily sort out their young pigeons by gender and they take advantage of another sex-linked mating.

Observation of Behavior I feel the best way to determine gender is to simply put the bird which is unknown into a confinement pen next to a bird that is a known gender. Then watch how they react to each other. If you put an unknown next to a male, the male may ignore the
unknown or he may start crowing and puffing up his chest and dragging his tail. If he ignores the unknown then you haven't gotten an answer yet. But if he starts crowing and puffing up his chest then the unknown is likely a hen.

You can, of course, do the opposite with a hen; putting a hen next to an unknown pigeon may cause the unknown to crow and drag his tail and court the hen.

DNA Testing Dr. Gratz mentioned in his article that he uses an avian DNA testing service. This is always a possibility too.

Vent Sexing The following text comes from a fellow pigeon fancier. I'm a little hesitant to put it here because I'm afraid some people who don't know how to do this technique correctly will try this and injure pigeons. I would consult an avian vet if you're unsure how this technique works. How one goes about stimulating a male pigeon (other than putting him next to a hen) is a question for which I do not know the answer. And if you stimulate the male pigeon by putting him next to a hen, you don't need to open his vent to see which he is.

Pigeons can be vent sexed like chickens when they have reached sexual maturity. You use a Baby Nasal Speculum to gain access through the vent. If you stimulate the vent area and then open it up with the speculum you will be able to see the male sexual organs after stimulation. It is the same proceedureused in stimulating the male bird when using artificial insemination.

Washer and String Certain pigeon fanciers believe that it's possible to tie a washer to a string and hold the washer above the pigeon which has an unknown gender. I don't know that it has to be a washer; I believe any bit of electically conductive metal is supposed to work. I can't remember exactly how this is supposed to work--I think the string is supposed to swing back and forth in the same plane if the bird is one sex or around in a circle if the bird is the opposite sex.

Personally I think this is an example of what psychologists call "ideomotor action":

<http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_168.html>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideomotor_action>

It's important to note that people don't have to be intending to deceive anyone for this ideomotor action to occur. People can be (and are) honestly unaware of the fact that they're causing the motion.

In brief, I think the fancier probably has a guess which one the bird is and, without realizing it, they make very subtle movements that either cause the washer to circle or swing back and forth. It would be easy to test: Have someone who's blindfolded hold the string and washer above a bird. Or attach the string and washer to a fixed stick. But as they say in the first article I linked above, people want to believe there is some magic in the world and pigeon fanciers
are no different.

At any rate, I know there are some intelligent, experienced fanciers for whom I have a lot of respect who swear this washer and string method works; I suppose if nothing else they'll be right half of the time. But a person would be right half of the time by flipping a coin too.

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